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Monday, September 3, 2012
0032: Comic Spotlight 2: Ultimate X #2
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wow a new episode featuring stroke victim mafia and it takes him a hour to speak wow how interesting.
ReplyDeleteYo Tim, what's up with this asshole? Even you have to prefer XantesFire if this other guy's typical of who's listening to your show these days.
ReplyDeletewow bitch coat mafia has made a reply how Huntington.
ReplyDeleteFuck you, dude.
ReplyDeleteno fuck you Dr. Monkey pants.
ReplyDelete"Doctor Monkey Pants"? How 2006 of you.
ReplyDeleteCould this be one of the Comic Book Haters? Kid Mission? Or XantesFire off his meds?
ReplyDelete"Could this be one of the Comic Book Haters?"
ReplyDeleteme nah i just want to fuck with stroke victim mafia
" Kid Mission?"
who
"Or XantesFire off his meds?"
like im that whore that loves Memín Pingüín fuck that noise and he takes his meds? and i thought that bitch is always is a cheap fuckhead.
I belong to a union so my meds are paid up.
ReplyDelete"Cheap"? You haven't seen my comic book collection or my... wait, what are we talking about?... Oh, nah TCM seems better this episode than previous. The paradox is that if TCM was totally up to speed this episode probably would have taken 2 hours.
And onto the show-
What?! To be polite? You only sit on a person's lap and give them your number cause you "like the cut of their jib.” And when I say "cut of their jib", I mean penis.
Tyroc's not a racist, he was born on an island of escaped black slaves. So the last white people his people knew before their island disappeared into a warp hole were slavers. He may have been standoffish but he eventually made friends with whites.
Uncle Ben had been back, alternate world Uncle Ben.
"Avoid, don't read things you don't like", hmmm.
Fictional squid was a better ending cause its an alien lifeform that was accidentally teleported into their world, with Dr. Manhattan as your enemy you got the most powerful being in the world being accused of mass murder. What if he didn't accept it? But he did, now what? What does the public think/know? Can he be controlled? Where is he? Image the anxiety he brings to the world. Sure the warring countries aren't warring any more but Dr. Manhattan is unexpected. I mean look what he did to those cities.
Using her tk to get dressed? Wouldn't you? Part of it is probably to keep in practice, other is cause its part of her. I would use tk to get dressed, fly to work when I'm running late, wipe my ass... Jean Grey probably has the softest asshole in the world, doesn't need to use toilet paper nor water, just tk the crap out.
Hey, TCM, I'm in NYC and so is VichusSmith, there goes half your commentators if a tidal wave hit.
"Working in a mall not hard"? Shows you've never worked in a mall.
Thoom, I still don't get this hate with dating a comic by showing real life events. You date yourself all the time by reviewing new movies. Why would it be a bad thing for Captain America in the 1940's, to say he just heard the new song by the Andrews Sisters? It's almost impossible to not date yourself if you're drawing a comic book based in the real world. How many Spider-man comics are dated pre September 2001 by showing the Twin Towers? Why is it so bad? All they are doing is showing they are relatively up to date. Course it does backfire when you have a character like Sunspot praising the newest episode of Magnum, P.I back in the 80's when he and his team were teens and in today's comics they are just 20somethings but 20 to 30 years have passed in the real world. But you know what also happened 20-30 years ago? The writers and artists cashed their checks for writing those books when the stories were new, so who cares?
X-Babies were fun and funny, so was the original idea for Longshot.
Actually there is facial recognition software out there. In fact Facebook has that tech too. It'll try to identify any person in your pics. Jean Grey, screwed. But that ass, so soft.
Professor X is much like the Jewish community. Sabertooth is a mutant, all is forgiven.
Of course Loeb believes in the afterlife, his son can't have just stopped existing.
Listen to Thoom's 440 mulattic voice? I didn't know Thoom was mix.
Xantes,
ReplyDeleteI have no idea why Tim hates the Watchmen squid.
And if a tidal wave did hit NYC, at least we'd be rid of the Yankees and Mets.
Well, that is somewhat of a good reason for me to die, but it would fail because the multi-billionaires who own the teams would just collect on the insurance they have on the stadiums and on the ball players and start all over. Oh, of course they would escape, using their private helicopters.
ReplyDeleteIf nothing else, at least George Steinbrenner is finally dead.
ReplyDelete"But you know what also happened 20-30 years ago? The writers and artists cashed their checks for writing those books when the stories were new, so who cares? "
ReplyDeleteWriters who work to create timeless stuff like LXG and Watchmen or Classic X-Men storylines, line Moore, Claremont, Morrison and Ennis keep getting paid 30 years later, through reprints, adaptations and/or continued work. The more you write dated works, the less it can be used and the less the writer will work. So to answer your question: the writer should care.
Those are all dated. LXG dated to late 1900's, thru culture and social events and tie-ins to the original stories the fictional characters are from. The League is dated, that is the fun.
ReplyDeleteWatchmen, often they mentioned who was president, social events and upheavals were happening corresponding to real life events, and of course what war was being fought? The 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's climaxing into the 80's. Dated like crazy.
Not sure what you mean by Classic X-men but they refer to themselves as "Children of the Atom", referring to nuclear testing and the bombings, which occurred mostly in the 50's and 60's, and bombings in 1945. 20 to 30 years later, these mutants are running around in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Sunfire probably best example of this, his mom died from Hiroshima. There's also Disco Dazzler.
"So to answer your question: the writer should care." Should they? Does it hurt them?
Conclusion. You don't seem to understand what you're reading.
The stories I mentioned can be made into movies now of 20 years from now, because the stories and the historical references are enduring in our culture.
ReplyDeleteSomeone mentioning Kevin James' latest shit movie is NOT enduring. Conclusion, you are just like these Republican idiots try to argue around logic and truth. Give it up little Xantes.
"The stories I mentioned can be made into movies now of 20 years from now, because the stories and the historical references are enduring in our culture." So you're okay with dating now? I mean, "the historical references are enduring in our culture.", that means dating... and... you... are... saying... it's... a... good... thing..., right?
ReplyDelete"Someone mentioning Kevin James' latest shit movie is NOT enduring. Conclusion, you are just like these Republican idiots try to argue around logic and truth. Give it up little Xantes." What? How am I being ill of logic? I pointed out facts. The League, settings based in historical time. Watchmen, settings based in near historical time. Classic X-Men, settings in the present, now the past. Were we talking about making these into movies? No. We're talking about why you hate dating in comics and to prove your point that dating sucks you bring up 3 franchises that are dated, 2 on purpose, one due to what's was the present is now the past and somehow thought they prove your point that dating is no good. Don't tell me I talk I'm circles, show me.
Oh, wait, so if they said Watchmen instead of Wally, that comic scene would be enduring to you?
You can, if you're a good writer take any comic book and turn it into a decent movie. That was not the point of the argument and you know it.
"If nothing else, at least George Steinbrenner is finally dead." So no need for the flooding of NYC, George died 2 years ago.
So prove me wrong by pointing out my "illogic," don't just try and belittle me, show me you have a point.
I don't have to show you anything. Referencing currently "hot" pop culture references is a bit lazy. Setting a story in the late 1800s/early 20th Century, of which culture references you'll write about will most likely be known about even today (H.G. Wells, Dracula etc.) will be classics and therefore recognizable, is better.
ReplyDeleteYour comment
"Conclusion. You don't seem to understand what you're reading."
Was condescending and unnecessary. And wrong. That is why I insulted you and that is why I don't like you.
"I don't have to show you anything. Referencing currently "hot" pop culture references is a bit lazy. Setting a story in the late 1800s/early 20th Century, of which culture references you'll write about will most likely be known about even today (H.G. Wells, Dracula etc.) will be classics and therefore recognizable, is better." Your rebuttal is lame. Ultimate X-men is set in today's world. Therefore for the writer to associate that an event happened recently, he'll probably use something recent to mark it. How is that lazy? He cannot mark it in that context with something from Victorian London. Should the character think instead, something like, "About 100 yrs ago, New York City made it illegal for women to smoke in public, I know my girlfriend, Karen, if she smoked would smoke in public." Classy, no? Again, you have admitted you are okay with dating comics. Hypocrite. You only find it acceptable when you like the story and think people you don't like shouldn't use dating.
ReplyDelete"Was condescending and unnecessary. And wrong. That is why I insulted you and that is why I don't like you." Oh, I didn't say you can't insult me, I said don't just try to belittle me without backing up your point. Which factually you haven't. In fact you've backed up my point that you do accept dating comics.
And I gave you the benefit of a doubt by adding "seem".
Stop making me defend Jeph Loeb.
this is what i think of you and cunt face maifa
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcSNnv7A_Lc
With listeners like these, who needs haters?
ReplyDeleteIt is fitting because I don't like most people. A message to the "fans" here: DIE DIE DIE! Unadulterated hate sometimes feels good. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSgPZjWqp_U
ReplyDeleteI'm not a hater but I will call you out on your hypocrisy i.e. dating in comics and your wrongness i.e. "Facebook doesn't have face recognition software." And the last one sorta didn't even make sense to complain about because even if there was no face recognition software in our world, Ultimate X-men is set in a fictional world. Do you complain about the S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier too?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, And you posted the link to that crap because...?
ReplyDeleteI was excited to see that there seemed to be a decent conversation going on. Who would've expected it was just some hater mouthing off. I think it might be MC Trekkie. Where is Trekkie, anyway? Under his wife's bed?
ReplyDeleteI have a suggestion for you, Tim. There is an arc of Wolverine called Wolverine Goes to Hell. It has an interesting resolution.
I'm not a fan of the squid in Watchmen. Where'd that motherfucker get a space quid from? I know he had that Lynx or whatever, but a squid?
Whether you like X3 or not, they're going to involve time travel to erase most of it in the next movie, so the studio had problems with it.
Fun fact: Rogue's real name is Anna, which was coincidentally the first name of the actress who played her in the movies.
ReplyDeleteThat's what Ozzy's scientists were doing the on that island--creating the squid and the means to zap it into NYC.
ReplyDeleteThat's one reason why it's a dumb idea; scientists would study that thing's DNA and determine that is was a genetically engineered creature whose origin could be nowhere else except Earth. Besides it comes out of nowhere. The story had it's logical potential malevolent specter in Doc Manhattan: People were already distrustful of him. Someone as powerful and detached as him would naturally put fear into nations. He's the perfect scapegoat. And Ozymandias knew how logical Doc was, that he would eventually "come around" since the deed would have already been done by the time he founds out.
I don't blame Allen Moore for using the squid. He was very young, and didn't know how to end the story. He probably came up with Ozzy's plan the last minute, and having just read one of his 1950s sci-fi comix or seeing a late night creature feature, decided to put a cool monster in as the catalyst of fear.
I remember Wolverine Goes To Hell. I hated what I had read of it. But I didn't read the ending. I may seek that out.
Screw Paquin. I need a sexy southern woman with a real southern drawl. Maybe Paquin fills the bill now, after many years on True Blood. I've never seen the show.
Oh, that youngster, Alan Moore, created one of the most lauded works in all of comics. He was just getting his bearings! That 30-something, he didn't know how to write an ending.
DeleteActually based on the 80's level of genetics, it would had been hard to identify the genetic material as alien or altered Terran DNA, especially since he killed the leading geneticists on the island. And Ozymandias would had the squid destroyed as he killed everyone who knew about his plans.
ReplyDeleteThe squid was a better idea because it was accidentally brought into their world and united the countries by showing that there are potential threats out there that a unified human may have to take on. Not that there were immediate alien invasions.
Not last minute.
Sure Doc is a fearsome specter but like I stated before, what can the government do against him? Not that they really had to fight him but how would they represent that to the public? People would believe they lived in a world where at any moment the blue guy could appear over their skies and destroy their city. How do they fight that? How can you prepare? With nuclear war perhaps you would have time to scurry down into the "safety" of your shelter. Suicide and murder rates would go up. An apathetic nihilist future-less youth would grow, world-wide.
They have thankfully made Anna Paquin's parts on True Blood, shorter and shorter. So they usually move away from her before she becomes too annoying.